THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary

                      REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
              IN PHONE CONVERSATION WITH THE ASTRONAUTS
                 ABOARD THE ENDEAVOUR SPACE SHUTTLE

The Oval Office

12:45 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Can you hear me?

MISSION COMMANDER RONALD GRABE: Mr. President, I believe we hear you, but slightly broken up.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we can hear you, and we are looking at you. And you all look wonderful.

COMMANDER GRABE: Well, you're loud and clear now, Mr. President. That's much better.

THE PRESIDENT: We want to congratulate you on a spectacular launch and on looking so happy. The American people are very reassured watching you on television now.

COMMANDER GRABE: Well, thank you, sir. It's early in the mission, but we're very excited about the mission. It's certainly a multifaceted one and it really does show the versatility of the space shuttle. We're doing a little bit of everything on this flight.

THE PRESIDENT: I know. I understand one of the things you're doing is chasing down the Eureca satellite that was put up by the shuttle last July. And I'm especially pleased about that because it shows what we can do in the way of international cooperation as well as science. And I want to congratulate you on that and wish you well.

ASTRONAUT VOSS: Thank you very much, Mr. President. We've been working very hard for about a year training for this rendezvous and retrieval. And we're had a lot of fantastic support both in our own country and our own ground support team, and the international team all over in Europe and we're looking forward to bringing back great science on Eureca to the Europeans.

THE PRESIDENT: We're looking forward to that, too. I also understand that David and Jeff will be outside the shuttle practicing for the repair of the Hubbell Telescope and for the future assembly of the space station. And I thought that maybe one of them or both would like to comment on it so people can get a good look at you now, and when they see you outside in your suits they'll know who they're seeing.

ASTRONAUT WISOFF: Well, Mr. President, we're looking very forward to the space walk. We feel proud to be able to represent America. And we're very happy of your support of the space station. We think it represents the best of America and their pioneering spirit and the NASA team has done a really great job of preparing us for our flight. And I think that both Dave and I just can't wait to get there.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we're excited about it. And while you're up there, we're going to be down here trying to support the space program and the space station. As you know, we had a very distinguished commission looking at the whole space station project. They recommended some redesign and some management changes at NASA. But I think this should give us a great deal of credibility.

We've got some important votes coming up in the Congress in the next two days. While you're up there, we're going to be down here voting on this project. And I very much hope that we can prevail, and I think, frankly, your success and your work will help us to prevail. You're doing as much up there to help us win the votes down here as anyone, and I thank you for that.

COMMANDER GRABE: Well, Mr. President, we're very gratified by your support of the space station. We certainly all consider it to be an immensely important project in continuing our leadership in science and technology.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Let me just say one last thing about something that's very important to me. I understand that later in the mission Janice and Brian are going to be talking with school children around the world. And you may know that my daughter is a big fan of the space program. She's off at summer language camp now. But I want to just tell you how much I appreciate the fact that you're making an international education project out of this mission. That's very important to me.

ASTRONAUT DUFFY: Mr. President, we find that using amateur radio is an excellent way of communicating with children all around the world, and we're also able to excite them by using space and science. And letting them see space and science in action, we're able to excite them and hope they'll study harder.

THE PRESIDENT: You have no idea -- you may be on this mission creating thousands of scientists for the future just by the power of your example and by this direct communication. I think sometimes we underestimate the impact that human contact in an enormously impressive setting like this can have on children all across the world -- not only those with whom you'll talk, but millions of others who will just see it and know that it happened.

I want to thank all of you for the wonderful job you've done. We're very proud of you and we're very proud of all the NASA folks down here who are supporting you. I want to encourage you and say again that I'm behind you, this administration is behind you and I think the American people are behind you.

ASTRONAUT LOW: Mr. President, once again, we thank you very much for your support. It's a real pleasure to be up here at your service.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Let's hear from the last astronaut there.

ASTRONAUT SHERLOCK: I just wanted to add my thanks for your support. We all feel that the space program has done a tremendous amount for this country, both in promoting inside the country science education, and also with the international partners. And it means a lot to us to know that that support still is around and that we're going to have a strong space program in the future.

THE PRESIDENT: I'm committed to that. The American people, in watching you today, can see one area of human endeavour in which we are indisputably continuing to lead the world, and bringing other countries into partnership in both leadership and technology and science, and partnership with other countries. Those are the keys to our future as a people -- to our standard of living, to our quality of life, as well as to our ability to continue the American tradition of exploring frontiers.

And I'm very proud of you, and I wish you well. And we can't wait until you get home safe and sound. But have a great time up there, and learn a lot, and we'll all learn from you.

Good luck and God bless you all.

Q Mr. President, there's apparently a memo circulating over at the Pentagon suggesting that gays should be allowed to serve in the military if they simply don't advertise their status. Is that what you're likely to recommend?

THE PRESIDENT: I think I should wait until I get the report from the Pentagon. I have not received the report. I talked to Secretary Aspin very briefly just a couple of days ago and asked him to proceed with this and let me know as soon as possible. I think the American people in the military are certainly ready for a resolution. But I can't comment on the specifics until I see it.

Q Does that sound like a good solution to you?

THE PRESIDENT: I want to see what the details are. There's a lot of -- there's been a lot of very helpful comment I think on this whole issue, finally, in the last few weeks. Senator Dole was very helpful in what he said. I thought some of the people who testified, interestingly enough, on both sides of the issue in the last set of hearings really tried to shed more light than heat, tried to bring down the emotionalism in the debate and get people to look at the facts. So I think we're ready to resolve this and get it behind us. And I hope that it will happen soon. But I don't want to comment specifically until I get a specific recommendation.

Q But you haven't changed your mind, have you?

THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely not. I think -- and I don't see this as a liberal-conservative issue. I mean, you've got a core who was in the Reagan administration supporting the idea that there has to be some provisions for people who don't do anything wrong, but who are homosexuals serving in the service. You've got Barry Goldwater, you've got a lot of people who served with great distinction in the military who are now in the Congress taking the same position. So I think we're coming toward agreement on it, and I'm hopeful. But I'd like to see it resolved soon.

Q Sir, have you spoken to this fellow who claims to be your brother -- half-brother?

THE PRESIDENT: No. I placed a -- I left word on his answering service in California yesterday. I didn't know he was in the air. And I also left word in New York. And I'd like to talk to him and then I will -- I'll have a brief statement about it. But I think I should -- I'd like to try one more day to talk to him.

Q I think he's afraid to call you.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I hope not. I mean, we left word that it would be fine for him to call.

Q He's showed some reticence.

THE PRESIDENT: He's been, I think, very appealing and humble the way he's handled this whole thing. I've been impressed.

Q Any thoughts on the death of Pat Nixon?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I'm very sad, and I intend to try to speak with President Nixon today. I talked with him a couple of times in the last month when -- once when he was at the hospital and once when he had just come from the hospital in the last month or so to ask his advice about various things. And I know that this is -- you know, they had a very long and very close marriage. And this must be a very difficult time for him.

I think the American people really appreciate the dignity with which she served as First Lady. And I hope and believe that the Nixon family has the thoughts and prayers of all the American people today.

Q Thank you.

Q Is Panetta going to tell us anything we don't know? (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: Well, that's not so much a condemnation of me as a compliment to you. You know everything already. (Laughter.)

END12:57 P.M. EDT